Because my 4 co-members at Pinoy Raiders seem to be hibernating, I went in search of fellow Indyfans, and found a message board called "The Raven". There is an interesting topic going there about Indy and the "immortality issue" brought about by the events of The Last Crusade. The issue revolves around whether Indy and his dad are now "immortals", having drank from the Holy Grail. But we remember the warning of the Grail Knight about "crossing the Great Seal". The Grail may not be taken outside of the Temple for "that is the price of immortality". Does that mean that once Indy and his dad are outside the Temple, they lose their "immortality" too? Or does "immortality", in the context of the movie's mythology, actually just means "a long and healthy life", but not the Highlander-Duncan-McLeod type of immortality? Or maybe it just has the power of healing? Backtracking further in the story, we also find Walter Donovan telling Indy about the story of the 3 Knights of the Crusades who found the Grail and wandered the deserts for 150 years, before finally, only one of the 2 brothers made it and imparted his knowledge to a Franciscan friar. Presumably, the brothers drank from the Grail because they survived for 150 years or thereabouts, wandering the deserts. But the other did still die. It would be interesting to discuss the limitations (if there ARE limitations) to the Grail's powers, as depicted in The Last
Crusade, and comparing it to the Arthurian, and similar Grail legends.

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Excerpts from GiNnY's Diary

I amar prestar aen. The world has changed. For some weird reason, I'm not sure where I am exactly. It's like that weird state Gandalf was in after he defeated the Balrog. Hopefully I'll get out of this soon with some help. Not as sparkly white as old Gandalf, of course. Where is Faramir when I need him? Hah! As if... Wait a minute.... Who IS Faramir?

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Isn't anyone trying to find me?
Won't somebody come take me home?
It's a damn cold night.
Trying to figure out this life.
Won't you take me by the hand,
take me somewhere new.
I don't know who you are, but I,
I'm with you....
--- "I'm With You" by Avril Lavigne


.:chronicled by senator skywalker at 8:10:00 PM:.
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